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Caught in the act
Nov 3rd, 2009 by ella
Vox populi, vox dei. My post “Aanhin pa ang kabayo…” will be in the archives of this blog with all the legitimate comments included. Let it be known that I never pulled the post down and did not change or delete one word.
I apologize to those who gave valid criticisms and suggestions in this blog and to those who aired grievances. When I closed the comment box, I also silenced your voice. It was necessary. I needed the time to study the contents of the comment box. It was not easy, there were more than a thousand of them.
The comment box turned into an ugly circus because of a well thought out diversionary tactic. Nawalan na halos ng space ang ibang commenters.
Kailangan kong isa-isahin ang comments to weed them out and then isolate. As I said again and again, I need not delete any comment. I just disapprove them. All reactions to the controversial post, good and bad, are still inside this blog. Ilalabas ko ulit ang mga comments ‘nyo.
What is trolling?
Internet trolling - Posting derogatory messages about sensitive subjects on newsgroups and chat rooms to bait users into responding. It also means “laying waste” and can also be used to refer to simple spamming.
All info copy/pasted from comment manage page. They are also in the site’s database. Notice the IP addresses.
Secretary Esperanza I. Cabral
http://dswd.gov.ph | osec@dswd.gov.ph | 202.57.48.218
Ella: Again, I am not accusing Sec Cabral of any misdeed. I only want to show that the following IP addresses came from their computers or the same LAN connection..
Coffeeaddict used 2 IP addresses as a troll in my comment box.
http://www.dswd.gov.ph | terrycelestial@yahoo.com.ph | 202.57.48.218
“Jessica,
1. have you gone to the warehouse? seems like you’ve already made a conclusion”
http://www.dswd.gov.ph | terrycelestial@yahoo.com.ph | 122.52.36.206
“sana masaya ka na ella. you’ve once again proven the power of technology. sa ginawa mo, BALANCED JOURNALISM DIED WHEN YOU WERE BORN!”
Ella: Coffeeaddict, one of your comments has the same IP address as Sec Cabral, you noticed?
http://www.dswd.gov.ph | terrycelestial@yahoo.com.ph | 122.52.34.89
uy egpup, magaling ka ba mag-english? kasi nilalait mo yung direktor nila eh.
Ella: Direktor nila? Denial ba ito na taga-DSWD ka? Dapat “direktor namin“, di ba?
************************************
http://www.dswd.gov.ph | terrycelestial@yahoo.com.ph | 122.52.34.89
“As for defending their Secretary, do you think the outpouring of emotions from these employees…”
Ella: Tsk tsk COFFEEADDICT as NIKITA, there you go again. Come on, don’t you mean, OUR secretary? And emotions from “us” employees?
http://catwizkers.blogspot.com/ | catwizker@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
Support responsible blogging.
http://catwizkers.blogspot.com/
Ella: Do you mean support the DSWD blog? You have the same IP address as your boss and coffeeaddict, dear.
expose567@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
@Catwizkers - thank you. your post is very informative. i support responsible blogging!!!
Ella: Ano ‘to? Pinuri ang sarili niya? Again, it came from the same IP address. Nakakatawa naman ‘to.
bulok_ella
expose567@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
bayarangella
expose567@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
allaboutlove
expose567@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
sweet
mymhl_asjf@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
ano_ba_talaga_ate?
necronomiconph@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
roadrunner
rbrubis@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
unfairtalagasiella
expose567@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
Ella: May encyclopedia ba kayo ng nicks? Hindi nauubusan eh. Oy, baka magalit boss ‘nyo niyan. Kitang-kita ang ebidensiya, parang bagong kula. Iisa kayo ng IP address ng ma’am ‘nyo. (not accusing, just pointing out)
Pipol of the Phil
http://pipol.com | pipol@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
But one day observation is not enough to make years of service to the people of DSWD be one big negative issue agad
Benjie
niteofjieben@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
gel
alliana_1925@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
Ella: Ito bang http://pipol.com ay http://DSWD.com din? Pareho ng IP eh.
chai
chai00@yahoo.com | 121.97.181.92
ewan
yahyah_2080@yahoo.com | 121.97.181.92
kitkiti
wenzmania@yahoo.com | 121.97.181.92
Ella: I know where you’re coming from, ladies, pero naligaw ba kayo sa internet cafe? Pare-pareho kasi ng IP
joseph
suicidal_halo@yahoo.com | 112.202.215.138
“volunteer nyo pumunta dun at tumulong hindi nila problema kung paano ka uuwi”
annika
annika_santos31@yahoo.com | 112.202.215.138
“its easy for you to say that the DSWD should do this and that because you are not in their position.”
Ella: Mag-asawa ba kayo kaya iisa ang pc ‘nyo? Nothing wrong with that. Each of you is entitled to the exact same opinion. Hindi naman kayo nagkopyahan niyan ha?
flex
flex.reflexes@gmail.com | 222.127.12.76
“Hoy Ella, wag mong ibaba ang kurtina. Bakit bigla kang nabulok?”
Catwizkers
flex.reflexes@gmail.com | 222.127.12.76
Blog Review: Be a real blogger not a troll
“Is Ella Rose a real blogger or a troll? I have examined Ella’s article…”
Ella: Catwizkers, sino ka ba talaga? Akala ko si coffeaddict ka, si Nikita, and the rest of ‘em. ‘Yun pala si Flex ka rin. Hindi ka ba nalito? I hope they paid you well for this job. Wait…sino nga pala ang troll? 
ITO ANG PINOY!
4Ps
4ps@yahoo.com | 202.57.48.218
Ellah Leah:
DSWD employees are out to discredit you….Sa mga empleyado ng dswd…aminin ninyo na totoo ang sinasabi ni ellah!Wag kayo balat sibuyas!
Conclusion:
COFFEEADDICT as coffeeaddict posted 27 comments in the comment box. Exactly like SPAM.
Her other aliases like Catwizkers, Nikita, Flex and God knows what else posted some more.
Coffeeaddict and all your clones, were you not properly oriented with the use of the internet? You used the same connection, same server and same terminal where your boss sent her reply to this blog. Wala ba kayong ibang pc? Iisa lang ba ‘yan?
Therefore, Coffeeaddict a.k.a Terry Celestial of DSWD, assuming that is your name, don’t you think you deserve a demerit? Hiniya mo ang opisina mo.
As a public servant, nasa job description mo ba ang trolling? Bakit ka nagbabad ng ilang araw sa pc ng boss mo? Aren’t you supposed to take care of the social welfare of the Filipino People? I have a right to ask because I am a taxpayer.
O accusations na naman ba ito? Nagtatanong lang.
For my commenters, I will open the comment box soon. After some unscrupulous IP addresses are blacklisted, of course.
What is an IP address?
- “IP addresses or Internet Protocol addresses are the way in which computers on a network both communicate with each other and know where they all are in relation to one another.”
“As soon as a computer is connected to the Internet it needs to be given a registered IP address (which is generally called an Internet address).”
“When you put up a Web page, the server hosting it has to have what is called a static IP. This is an IP address that doesn’t change when you login.”
sumakit ang mata ko kababasa ng mga comments dun sa original post. akala mo kung sinong magaling mag comment si coffeeaddict. magaling lang palang magkunwaring magaling. yun pala di naman nag iisip, nabuking tuloy hehehe
Just thinking aloud, pwede mo rin malaman kung individual subscriber ba ito or company subscriber. Pasalamat na lang dahil wala pang technology na pwede mong halungkatin ang mga information na ganito dito sa Pilipinas dahil kung nagkataon, it’s another loophole at kuwestiyon sa responsableng panunungkulan yan at matibay ang ebidensya, sino ang gumagamit ng computer, ito ba ay government issued at bakit ito nagagamit ng ganito ka-iresponsable, ano ang ginagawa sa oras at bakit nga naman sa katwiran ng magaling ay sa kabila ng mga sakuna, ang isang taong nanunungkulan ay may panahon pang mag-inarte sa internet over something na sinasabi nyang untrue?
Your IP Address: 202.57.48.218
IP Address Hostname: 202.57.48.218
IP Country: Philippines
IP Country Code: PHL
IP Continent: Asia
IP Region: Rizal
Guessed City: Makati
IP Latitude: 14.5569
IP Longitude: 121.0294
ISP Provider: PHILCOM CORPORATION INTERNET SERVICE
Your IP Address: 122.52.36.206
IP Address Hostname: 122.52.36.206.pldt.net
IP Country: Philippines
IP Country Code: PHL
IP Continent: Asia
IP Region: Rizal
Guessed City: Pasig
IP Latitude: 14.56
IP Longitude: 121.0788
ISP Provider: Philippine Long Distance Telephone
Your IP Address: 122.52.34.89
IP Address Hostname: 122.52.34.89.pldt.net
IP Country: Philippines
IP Country Code: PHL
IP Continent: Asia
IP Region: Rizal
Guessed City: Makati
IP Latitude: 14.5569
IP Longitude: 121.0294
ISP Provider: Philippine Long Distance Telephone
Your IP Address: 121.97.181.92
IP Address Hostname: 121.97.181.92.bti.net.ph
IP Country: Philippines
IP Country Code: PHL
IP Continent: Asia
IP Region: Quezon City
Guessed City: Quezon City
IP Latitude: 14.6439
IP Longitude: 121.0375
ISP Provider: BayanTel Broadband DSL - SKYNetBasic
Your IP Address: 112.202.215.138
IP Address Hostname: 112.202.215.138.pldt.net
IP Country: Philippines
IP Country Code: PHL
IP Continent: Asia
IP Region: Benguet
Guessed City: Philippine
IP Latitude: 16.45
IP Longitude: 120.55
ISP Provider:
Your IP Address: 222.127.12.76
IP Address Hostname: 222.127.12.76
IP Country: Philippines
IP Country Code: PHL
IP Continent: Asia
IP Region: Rizal
Guessed City: Makati
IP Latitude: 14.5569
IP Longitude: 121.0294
ISP Provider: NTT GLOBE
ella Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Hello passerby,
Whoa! Mahahanap pala ‘no? Thanks for the heads up. Nakakatuwa, daming detalye.
Pag-aaralan ko nga ito. Parang interesado ako sa IP latitude and longtitude eh. Mapa na ang dating nito. Pare-pareho kasi kahit iba ang IP address. Thanks ulit for these info, passerby.
Oh ayan eh di buking na buking…hehehe
Before we all get carried away with the IP address thing, a local area network (LAN) of several computers access the internet through a router with a single IP address. It’s like a whole apartment building has one address but has many tenants. It is logical to assume that there are several computers in Cabral’s office accessing the ‘net through a single router. Even if the office has only one computer, it is conceivable that several employees could take turns using the single computer. If someone desperately want to appear as several persons on the ‘net, it is as easy as logging-in at different Starbucks locations with a laptop, or going to different internat cafes.
ella Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Hi Berto,
Thank you for explaining the “IP address” thing further. I don’t think naman magkakaroon ng ruckus about that.
I’m not an expert either sa networking but what little knowledge I have is based on my own network system at home. I have several workstations, desktops and laptops, using Wireless Network Connection.
All my workstations have the same default gateway (DHCP Server). My wireless router assigns an individual IP with DIFFERENT LAST 2 DIGITS for each workstation to avoid signal overlapping.
Can I therefore safely conclude that the comments written by purportedly different authors were sent from one workstation?
Ang tanong ko sa post, “iisa lang ba ang pc sa opisina ‘nyo?” If that’s the case as shown by the single IP addy above, I will not call it a workstation. Personal computer lang siya with a single connection.
sinag araw Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Berto is right ella. Ang IP add na nakita mo kina coffeaddict ET AL ay ip add na ginagamit nila sa opsina nila para magkaroon sila ng internet connection. You don’t really see their local IP. I think ang pwedeng makagawa nun e yung Internet Provider.
You were right too dun sa wireless router mo sa bahay nyo but still ang internet ip mo na nakikita sa labas ay iisa.
To further illustrate my point since more than one ang workstation sa bahay nyo at naka connect lahat sa router, try every workstation and go to this website… http://www.whatismyip.com
If I’m not mistaken pare-pareho kayo ng ip add na ginagamit. There is still more to it, if I don’t want to be identified I can use anonymous software freely downloaded in the web. But that’s just me. Pero para mag post ka lang ng ibat-ibang nick e gagamit ka pa ng anonymizer, ang ibig sabihin nito e may masama kang intensyon.
Any way thanks for blogging their shit! Mabuhay ka
ella Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Hi sinag araw.
Ibig sabihin, puwedeng sandamakmak din ang computers nila sa opis at hindi lang iisang piraso, no? Thanks for explaining.
That means puwedeng iba’t ibang tao o maraming tao ang tumutok sa comment box, hindi lang si coffeeaddict? Each nick with the same exact IP addy can be an individual person at hindi niya clone?
Naku, dear, mas lalong sumama ang imagery sa utak ko. The point is all those comments came from one local network or building or office or whatever
Ano ‘yun DEMOLITION TEAM? Ok na sana kung isa lang ang attack dog Eh kung isang pack? Dumami pa lalo ang naglalakwatsa sa oras ng trabaho!
Jeez, that’s even worse. Parang mas ok yata yung ISA lang siya, ah. Mas makakatipid tayo.
romina Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
we have to admit, this girl knows what she’s talking about.
shame on u people who wants to rob these poor victims. nakakaawa na nga, lalo pang kinakawawa.
how can u sleep peacefully in the evening when u know these people are suffering - without beds to sleep on, nor a shelter to keep them warm. Un na lang sanang konting tulong na para sa kanila, ibigay na natin.
Don’t worry Ella, di naman nila pakikinabangan yan!
Proverbs 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty.
Ezekiel 22:31 Therefore I have poured out My indignation on them; I have consumed them with the fire of My wrath; and I have recompensed their deeds on their own heads,” says the Lord GOD.
O ayan, matakot kayo!
Well, yes - actually, it may _partly_ be true.
You see — the lines here in the philippines are accessed by Bulk - an IP address alone cannot be owned solely for one person .. Coz if that’s the case - then we limit ourselves to only 254.254.254.254 users — and some IP addressess are limited / strictly-assigned to something else (example 0.0.0.0).
So, some users (though they may be of different location) may have -closely- associated IP address on several points (probably the first 2 or 3 masks refering to the : X.X.X.0). This is common if, like a subdivision or a village, all are under the same ISP ’s IP range control like PLDT or something else.
I mean, with wireless broadband - anyone can switch IP addresses and stuff. So, it _may_ be embarrassing to point out and accuse people directly just because their IP address are relatively close.
In simple terms : Just because you and I have a cell number that starts with 0917 (under Globe) — doesn’t mean we know each other, right?
ella Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Hi Dminotaur,
“So, it _may_ be embarrassing to point out and accuse people directly just because their IP address are relatively close”.
Did you examine the IP addresses I posted? They are EXACTLY the same, from the first to the last digit. Not relatively close, dear, exactly the same..
And who’s accusing who…of what?
That’s why it’s called an address, parang bahay din yan, di ba? Meron bang bahay na pareho ang address? Puwedeng pareho ng street, pero nagkakatalo sa NUMBER.
Eh kung makuha ng kapitbahay ko ang tseke ko dahil parehong-pareho kami ng address to the last digit? Pucha, giyera mundial hehe
At saka ang dali namang magtago, di ba? IP switcher lang ang katapat niyan.
Thanks for the comment, dear.
It’s funny how the DSWD employees waste their time in trolling in your blog. They have nothing else to do eh? If your blog posts are just mere lies, they should move on. They are adults already and they should act one. Duh?
And the funny thing is… It’s on the news, at DZMM, that the donations for the typhoon victims ages ago from DSWD are sooo delayed. It’s almost a month delayed already?
Hi ella,
it’s just so funny how these people are trying to find ways to get away and sugar coat their misdeeds, no?
don’t worry, you aren’t alone. just keep the good fight going.
ella, sa yo pa rin ang huling halakhak
go, girl! wag ka patalo sa mga yan…
Like what I’m trying to point out, isipin mo na lang, imbes na nagtatrabaho itong mga ito, at kinukulang daw sa mga volunteers eh nagcomputer sila ng nagcomputer at ang alam ko dapat bawal sa mga empleyado ang mag-access ng mga websites na walang relevance sa mga trabaho nila, bakit kaya imbes na nagco-comment sila dito sa blog ni Ella, sila na lang sana ang lumabas at nag pack ng mga donations, in a way, they could have proven Ella wrong kung ganun na lang ang ginawa nila, pwede rin they could have said, yes ella was right, kulang kami sa volunteers kaya sige isasara muna namin ang aming department at maiwan ang iba sa opisina para kami ang mag pack ng donations and relyebo naman ng iba sa susunod. So you could imagine na lang, na sa isang buong maghapon na dapat ay nagtatrabaho sila at fini-figure out nila kung ano ang dapat nilang gawin sa mga nasalanta ay sa computer nagbabad ang mga magagaling na empleyado ng DSWD. Sila pa rin ang nag-trap sa mga sarili nila by doing so, pinatutunayan lang nila how inefficient they are. Pinasisinungalingan na nga ng boss nila ang sinasabing naka-tenggang donations, tapos sumali pa sila by commenting instead of working. Magkakatalo na lang kung working hours ginawa itong mga comments na to, pwede ring breaktime, hehe. But the point is, tax payers pay the government so the government can have computers and internet connection. Lumalabas na wala pa rin silang utang na loob kay Ella, kase sa tax rin nya kinukuha ang pang bayad ng internet connection at pinang-bili ng computers na ginamit nila pang access ng blog na ito. Ang sama.
Ella dear sa atin pa rin ang huling halakhak. Bwa ha ha
how sure are we that you didnt just put those IP adds to make DSWD look bad? why dont you post all the IP addresses that commented on your blog?are you discriminating or what?or your really just out to make DSWD look bad? are you being paid by some1 to do this?i hope you did what other bloggers did when they realized what really was important was helping the victims of the calamity and not some irresponsible comments that created this mess. a meeting with the officials of the DSWD would have enlightened your views on things. i really do hope your happy with the publicity that you are getting.enjoy it while it lasts. and i hope karma happens to you and not to your children and your family.
ella Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:29 am
mmamiit,
“how sure are we that you didnt just put those IP adds to make DSWD look bad?”
“are you being paid by someone to do this?”
This is the kind of crap I hate to see in my comment box.
“why dont you post all the IP addresses that commented on your blog?”
Ok, that’s what you want, I’ll start with you.
From wordpress dashboard which you can also retrieve from the site’s database if you so desire. If you have no idea what a database is, may problema.
From my web tracker. Now, try to keep up ok? Obvious, di ba, I cannot mess with this one.
Ngayon mmamiit, may proof ka ba sa libelous statement mo na nagpapabayad ako? Ako naman ang manghihingi sa iyo ng katunayan sa bintang mo. Nawiwili kayo porke bait-baitan ako eh.
bebe Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
bakit di ko makita yung ip ad?
miks Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
naman mmamiit, huling huli ka na eh pilit mo pang ilulusot. yang punto mo parehong pareho kayo ng tono ni coffeeaddict eh!
@Cobra:nasa nav bar, thanks.
E isa pa pa palang gungong to e! How sure are we na hindi ka nag post lang para siraan si Ella? Hindi ka kaya taga DSWD? Baka naman bayaran ka ng DSWD para manira? Bakit ka nagtatago sa pangalang mmamiit? Bakit di ka magpa kilala sa tunay mong pangalan?
Hay naku Ella don’t mind this *ssholes! More power and please continue what you’re doing
huli kayo!!!!
Hehehe buking,
Okay - Here’s the technical part :
In a Village — where most of them use the same ISP — they may all go to the same IP trunk link / lease line, because the ISP may not want to invest 1 IP for every home as this is costly. The IP address may become identical due to Router distribution and IP-address lists on such machines. That’s why they lease sole IP address to big business like Call Centers - to avoid anyone from joining on the same IP address, but that’s astronomically expensive.
So, If ISP Brand X can only use IP Address range (in a worldly measurement) of 192.168.1.1 up to 192.168.256.256 — does that limit them to (more or less) 256,256 customers? No, they split these IP addresses into trunks where people can share connections.
But that’s just too much technical BS :
Point is - Just because someone is on the same Bus as someone else does not entirely mean that they know each other, right?
Although, figuratively - it is mighty scary that their IP Address are the same, perhaps they do know each other (like on the same building or stuff).
One thing we can be sure of is the source of all the negative comments: Cabral’s office. The defensive tone and the vicious counter accusations also imply guilt, as in “tinamaan ng bato-bato sa langit …” A hardworking DWSD employee would feel hurt by a false accusation but would remain civil.
E kaya naman pala eh. May libro na ipopromote.
Are you going to ban my IP and email?
ella Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Mel,
Hahaha, sus, I won’t waste my time banning you dear. Asa ka pa.
But I wish you did not shoot from the hip, gurl. Ignorance is never an excuse for stupidity, you know. Is this your first time in my blog?
The one you are talking about at the top of my posts has been there for more than a year 24/7. Always. Nawala siya for 3 weeks because it is a PLUGIN. I disabled plugins, remember?
Madaming nagtatanong sa akin kung saan mabibili ang libro ko so instead of answering them every time, I posted a permanent announcement…MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.
And fyi dear, hindi ko na kailangang mag-promote. And also I’ve been blogging for FOUR years. Sana nasubaybayan mo muna ang blog ko bago ka bumunganga, di vah?
Really, I get all kinds in the comment box, unbelievable. Haaay
If it bothers you that much, sige tatanggalin ko for you